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Posted 19 November 2011 - 09:06 AM

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:27 PM

What is in stf???
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:34 PM

View Postautoxr, on 19 November 2011 - 03:27 PM, said:

What is in stf???
According to SCCA forums, it's a ladies' ST class. :lol: (kidding, obviously)

Acura RSX
Acura TSX
Honda CR-Z
Honda Civic (2001-2005, all)
Honda Civic (2006-2011, non-Si)
Honda Fit
Ford Fiesta
Ford Focus (all)
Kia Forte/Koup
Lancer (non-turbo)
MINI Cooper (non-S)
Mazda 2
Mazda 3
Mazda 6
Scion tC, xA, xB
Toyota Corolla (1998-2011)
Toyota Yaris
VW Golf 2.5

Pretty much everyone sick of losing to 89 Civic Si hatchbacks. Long live Spec Civic class! :D
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 08:31 PM

I've seen two different DSP numbers...this one at .851 and on Philly's website at .846. I'd imagine it's .846.
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 09:29 PM

Acura rsx s should rule that class can you run toyo ra1 100 tread wear?






View PostIMPREZvWRX, on 19 November 2011 - 03:34 PM, said:

According to SCCA forums, it's a ladies' ST class. :lol: (kidding, obviously)

Acura RSX
Acura TSX
Honda CR-Z
Honda Civic (2001-2005, all)
Honda Civic (2006-2011, non-Si)
Honda Fit
Ford Fiesta
Ford Focus (all)
Kia Forte/Koup
Lancer (non-turbo)
MINI Cooper (non-S)
Mazda 2
Mazda 3
Mazda 6
Scion tC, xA, xB
Toyota Corolla (1998-2011)
Toyota Yaris
VW Golf 2.5

Pretty much everyone sick of losing to 89 Civic Si hatchbacks. Long live Spec Civic class! :D

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 10:22 PM

Yeah, where they pulled that STF number from, I have no idea... I can run my '05 civic si in H-stock with the .799, or upgrade the suspension, add header/intake/retune/wider wheels and get the .787... hmmm very tempting! And I agree, the rsx-s will seems like it will be the car to beat (either that or the forte koup).
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 12:26 AM

View Postbhipp2004, on 19 November 2011 - 10:22 PM, said:

Yeah, where they pulled that STF number from, I have no idea... I can run my '05 civic si in H-stock with the .799, or upgrade the suspension, add header/intake/retune/wider wheels and get the .787... hmmm very tempting! And I agree, the rsx-s will seems like it will be the car to beat (either that or the forte koup).
remember, these are based on stock class running Hoosier A6s, not street tires.


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Posted 20 November 2011 - 12:10 PM

View PostIMPREZvWRX, on 20 November 2011 - 12:26 AM, said:

remember, these are based on stock class running Hoosier A6s, not street tires.


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I thought all the ST classes were street tire....have not looked that close into them though
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 01:28 PM

They are. Brandon was talking about the STF class having a softer pax than HS despite allowing more modifications. However, the HS class allows R compound tires, which is almost always the case on the national level.


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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:00 PM

Bah, too bad the Golf TDI isn't in STF. I don't really understand how the 170hp Golf 2.5 is, but the 140hp 2.0 diesel is classed higher in HS.

I really want my daily to be competitive so I don't need two cars :)

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:46 PM

View PostThe_Mike, on 20 November 2011 - 09:00 PM, said:

Bah, too bad the Golf TDI isn't in STF. I don't really understand how the 170hp Golf 2.5 is, but the 140hp 2.0 diesel is classed higher in HS.

I really want my daily to be competitive so I don't need two cars :)


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Posted 21 November 2011 - 01:02 AM

View Postautoxr, on 20 November 2011 - 09:46 PM, said:

Remember the 924 I run has 126hp

Diesel is slow! :D

Actually, I'm afraid that with the 5000 rpm redline I'd have to shift too often. The MR2 is happy in second from 15-60. That's really three gears with the diesel mill.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 08:46 AM

View Postautoxr, on 19 November 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

Acura rsx s should rule that class can you run toyo ra1 100 tread wear?

STF is for the base RSX only. RSX-S will be in STX, iirc. All ST* classes must run a 140 or higher treadwear rating. If I was building a car for STF, I think it would be a mini. Would be a fun dual purpose car, if you can tolerate the suspension required to be nationally competitive for every day use.

So who else is happy about the 2012 SM pax? B)

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 08:51 AM

View PostJBranco, on 19 November 2011 - 08:31 PM, said:

I've seen two different DSP numbers...this one at .851 and on Philly's website at .846. I'd imagine it's .846.

Straight from the PAX man himself... http://home.comcast....tp/rtp2012.html


0.851 is correct for DSP.

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 05:57 PM

View Postpsushoe, on 21 November 2011 - 08:46 AM, said:

So who else is happy about the 2012 SM pax? B)
I'm partially excited although my raw times have never been quick enough to even dream about the top pax spot. I'm either going to stay in SM but put r comps on the RPF1s or go to CS, hopefully also on r comps on the RPF1s.
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 11:05 PM

View PostIMPREZvWRX, on 22 November 2011 - 05:57 PM, said:

I'm partially excited although my raw times have never been quick enough to even dream about the top pax spot. I'm either going to stay in SM but put r comps on the RPF1s or go to CS, hopefully also on r comps on the RPF1s.

CS? Sounds like a BRZ is in your future.
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 12:06 AM

View PostJBranco, on 22 November 2011 - 11:05 PM, said:

CS? Sounds like a BRZ is in your future.
Well, as long as it lives up to its hype. I'll have to wait and see what we actually get here in the states.
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 12:39 PM

When is the SMRWD class comming?????????????????? :rolleyes: :lol: :P
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 01:54 PM

I doubt any time soon. A (very well built) 240 won SM at nats this year and kicked my butt at NNJR Pro and Dover Tour.

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 02:23 PM

View Postpsushoe, on 21 November 2011 - 08:46 AM, said:

STF is for the base RSX only. RSX-S will be in STX, iirc. All ST* classes must run a 140 or higher treadwear rating. If I was building a car for STF, I think it would be a mini. Would be a fun dual purpose car, if you can tolerate the suspension required to be nationally competitive for every day use.

So who else is happy about the 2012 SM pax? B)

RSX-S has no LSD, so it looks like it will be included in the STF class. It is a bit heavier than the base model, but putting that extra power down without the LSD and on street tires will be the problem.

I might try my hand at the class with my '05 si... would be fun. Hopefully it attracts a lot of people nationally as the cars they have included (aside from the mini and mazda 3) don't seem to be used too much right now in autox.
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